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Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 9668 Location: Rivonia by day, in the bush by night(H'cap 6)
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:24 pm Post subject: Swing the handle |
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i've been struggling with my ball striking the last few weeks, i was hitting from the top, early release, scooping the ball, weight shift was terrible, it was a right old mess, then i got this tip on the range at Mauritius from a fellow ammie, "swing the handle not the club head"
i tried it, thought it was a load and concentrated on something else. then the guy called me after we came back and said "it works well doesn't it", i said, i your dreams dildo, i'm duffing everything then he explained it in more detail.
here goes, try it if your ballstriking is off. swing the handle not the club head, for it to work you must concentrate to swing the handle (grip) down at the ball with both hands, start slow, turn and all that junk, then on the way down, press the handle down in the direction of the ball and keep your posture, this keeps your'e hands ahead of the clubface, creates a descending blow, late release and all that junk you need to hit it crisp.
use it, don't use it....its the best quick fix i ever got. _________________ ________
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Marius

Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 4815 Location: EGGU - HC 15/11
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds very similar to a tip the asian dude on the Golf Bag or whatever the Nike show is called had the other night. Neither hand should dominate the swing. _________________ Life is not always pleasant, but it's always interesting. |
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Doron

Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 12116 Location: Kyalami (H/C 4/3 on the way up)
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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I gonna try it.
And Marius, I like that dude Tony Meshiai. BOOM!!!! _________________ Left is the devil's work. |
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Marius

Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 4815 Location: EGGU - HC 15/11
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah D, he's got one or two basic and very simple swing thoughts. Easy to remember, and all focussed on rhythm. _________________ Life is not always pleasant, but it's always interesting. |
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JM

Joined: 02 Jun 2008 Posts: 850
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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It works definately. I had to build in a slight pause at the top to make sure I set the club exactly right - really more of an easy transition than a pause - and then everything just falls into place. Right elbow tucked in, hips clearing and lotsa power behind the ball. _________________ ____________________
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Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 9668 Location: Rivonia by day, in the bush by night(H'cap 6)
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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yep, thats what it did for me as well, slowed down the transition from the top, it worked wonders for me and i hit it a club further. _________________ ________
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Doron

Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 12116 Location: Kyalami (H/C 4/3 on the way up)
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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Just went to the Pro Shop to drop off some stuff for Golf Development and decided to spend a few minutes on the Launch Monitor and try this out.
Also slowed the transition down a little and the difference was massive. While not wanting to use Launch Monitor statistics as the absolute truth, that will come on the course, what I really wanted to see was the path of the clubhead and the angle of attack.
The best thing about using this was my path which immediately changed from outside-in to inside-in. Angle of attack is a little too steep but it did change from an ascending scoop to a descending blow. Once again all based on a Launch Monitor which may be inaccurate. But this all looks promising.
The biggest shock came in the clubhead speed department where I have been battling to get a 5 iron much above 84mph. All of a sudden my range was between 89 and 97mph but averaging at 92mph for 15 swings of a 5 iron. That is 8 mph more clubhead speed (clubs were a Callaway X22 Pro Series with Project X 6.0 and Nike Tour with DGS400).
Even took a new Wilson Di9 5 iron off the shelf which has a 90gram steel shaft and clubhead speed with that was 101mph!!!! I have never swung a medium iron at that speed in my entire existence.
So initial views after hitting 30 - 40 balls in the net at the Pro Shop on the Launch Monitor looks really positive but we will see on Thursday when I get to play again. _________________ Left is the devil's work. |
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JM

Joined: 02 Jun 2008 Posts: 850
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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I believe the big component here is the lag it creates. _________________ ____________________
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Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 9668 Location: Rivonia by day, in the bush by night(H'cap 6)
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Doron wrote: | | Also slowed the transition down a little and the difference was massive. |
glad it worked for you, i was amazed by the immediate result.
now if anyone have good putting tips, like how to read a green, how not to change your line while over the ball, how not to change your line while in the middle of the stroke, how to trust your ball position, distance from the ball, how to muster the courage to hit the short ones straight and firm and lastly how to get your lag putts within, i would like to say 1m, but 2m at this stage will do....... pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!!! _________________ ________
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Maverick

Joined: 13 Feb 2006 Posts: 7825 Location: CPT
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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| up&down wrote: | | Doron wrote: | | Also slowed the transition down a little and the difference was massive. |
glad it worked for you, i was amazed by the immediate result.
now if anyone have good putting tips, like how to read a green, how not to change your line while over the ball, how not to change your line while in the middle of the stroke, how to trust your ball position, distance from the ball, how to muster the courage to hit the short ones straight and firm and lastly how to get your lag putts within, i would like to say 1m, but 2m at this stage will do....... pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!!! |
Don't look at me....I carry 2 putters again......
Although I had (by my standards) a good putting outing at Paarl over the weekend....(only 3 putted the last 2 holes.......for an 81)
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Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 9668 Location: Rivonia by day, in the bush by night(H'cap 6)
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Maverick wrote: | | up&down wrote: | | Doron wrote: | | Also slowed the transition down a little and the difference was massive. |
glad it worked for you, i was amazed by the immediate result.
now if anyone have good putting tips, like how to read a green, how not to change your line while over the ball, how not to change your line while in the middle of the stroke, how to trust your ball position, distance from the ball, how to muster the courage to hit the short ones straight and firm and lastly how to get your lag putts within, i would like to say 1m, but 2m at this stage will do....... pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!!! |
Don't look at me....I carry 2 putters again......  |
hehe, not again, i thought you said that was k.ksoek op sy beste or something to that effect. i've decided i'm going to do the Doron or is it the Drew?? i'm going to buy myself a new putter, i know it won't fix anything, but at least i will look down at something different before my next 3stab. _________________ ________
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Doron

Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 12116 Location: Kyalami (H/C 4/3 on the way up)
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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When I read this, my immediate reaction before even seeing your solution was:
Go and buy another putter or 2.
You cannot think you have a putting problem until you have at least 20 putters. Until you have every type of putter available, there is a chance that the problem is equipment based rather than talent or skill based. _________________ Left is the devil's work. |
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Jonty
Joined: 13 Feb 2006 Posts: 2867 Location: JHB by day, Ptown by night
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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| up&down wrote: | | Doron wrote: | | Also slowed the transition down a little and the difference was massive. |
glad it worked for you, i was amazed by the immediate result.
now if anyone have good putting tips, like how to read a green, how not to change your line while over the ball, how not to change your line while in the middle of the stroke, how to trust your ball position, distance from the ball, how to muster the courage to hit the short ones straight and firm and lastly how to get your lag putts within, i would like to say 1m, but 2m at this stage will do....... pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!!! |
You know my answer but I will tell you anyway.................................................... RICKY LOWE!! |
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Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 9668 Location: Rivonia by day, in the bush by night(H'cap 6)
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Jonty wrote: | | You know my answer but I will tell you anyway.................................................... RICKY LOWE!! |
i'm trying to solve the problem not forget about it. _________________ ________
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Joined: 15 Feb 2006 Posts: 4794 Location: Cape Town
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:10 am Post subject: |
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| up&down wrote: | | Jonty wrote: | | You know my answer but I will tell you anyway.................................................... RICKY LOWE!! |
i'm trying to solve the problem not forget about it. |
Not sure what putter you are using but it might be time to go oversize! _________________ REMEMBER
DELIVERING HIGH QUALITY OF SERVICE TO CUSTOMERS IS LIKE MAKING LOVE TO A
GORILLA
YOU DON'T STOP WHEN YOU'RE SATISFIED,
YOU STOP WHEN THE GORILLA IS SATISFIED |
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